Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 7997;andrew.cmu.edu;Ted Anderson Received: from beak.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for +dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr11/tm2b/space/space.dl) (->ota+space.digests) ID ; Tue, 31 Oct 89 01:28:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4ZHHhHu00VcJA2xE5h@andrew.cmu.edu> Reply-To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU From: space-request+@Andrew.CMU.EDU To: space+@Andrew.CMU.EDU Date: Tue, 31 Oct 89 01:27:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: SPACE Digest V10 #177 SPACE Digest Volume 10 : Issue 177 Today's Topics: Re: NASA Prediction Bulletins: Space Shuttle Re: PowerSat Options Payload canister incident to be investigated (Forwarded) Galileo and the proposed asteroid flybys Re: PowerSat Options Re: Space Shuttle SRB exhaust gas makeup. Re: Galileo boost from Venus Payload Canister Mishap Investigation Board: Statement of Activity (Forwarded) PowerSat Options Re: Cleaning up LEO Re: Galileo boost from Venus Re: Space Shuttle SRB exhaust gas makeup. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Oct 89 22:23:22 GMT From: mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!gronos@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (R.M. Gronostajski) Subject: Re: NASA Prediction Bulletins: Space Shuttle I hate to clutter the net, but can anyone send me an FTP address where I can get some satellite tracking software that will run on an IBM compatible 386 based machine? Something that has a world map with pictures of the satellites on it and can use the NASA prediction bulletin format would be really nice. Thanks in advance. Rich Gronostajski ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 89 02:48:10 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!henry@apple.com (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: PowerSat Options In article <22510002@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM> 10e@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM (Steven_Tenney) writes: >... a powersatellite collecting solar power and passing it >down to receiving stations either as microwave or even as a laser beam. I >knew that microwave energy was a viable option but what about laser energy? Lasers have the advantage that they are much easier to focus into a tight beam, and the disadvantage that the power->laser and laser->power conversions are much more difficult and much less efficient than for microwaves. They are also somewhat more subject to attenuation due to weather. They would also make much better weapons, which is a potent argument against them if an unambiguously peaceful device is desired. -- A bit of tolerance is worth a | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology megabyte of flaming. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 89 00:57:39 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload canister incident to be investigated (Forwarded) Karl Kristofferson Oct. 23, 1989 Area Code 407/867-2468 KSC Release No. 105A-89 PAYLOAD CANISTER INCIDENT TO BE INVESTIGATED Kennedy Space Center Director Forrest S. McCartney has ap- pointed a mishap investigation board to determine the cir- cumstances surrounding an incident early Saturday which resulted in damage to one of KSC's two payload canisters. A mobile crane was being used to remove a steel reinforced concrete test weight at approximately 2:20 a.m. Saturday. The weight was just about clear of the canister's doors when the weight dropped, striking the canister door as it fell to the floor of the canister. There were no injuries and an inspection of the canister to determine the extent of the damage is underway. The temporary unavailability of the damaged canister is not expected to impact KSC's Space Shuttle operations as the remain- ing canister can be scheduled to move payloads between processing and pad facilities. The board will be chaired by William G. Mahoney, chief of the Payload Processing Division. Other members include co- chairman John D. Link, STS Payload Operations; Malcolm C. Glenn, Safety and Reliability Engineering Division; Russell P. Lloyd, Ground Engineering Facilities Division; Michael F. Sumner, Center Support Operations; Bradford P. Lytle, Facilities Engineering; Kenneth W. Colley, National STS Operations. Affiliated members are Alan J. Guerra, Industrial Safety Branch, Safety Advisor; Robert G. Young, Payload Projects Management, Recorder; Richard H. Mundy, deputy chief counsel, Legal Advisor; George H. Diller, Public Affairs Advisor and Wayne R. Frazier, NASA Headquarters Advisor. The payload canister is a container the size of a Space Shuttle payload bay which is used to move integrated shuttle payloads in a controlled environment from the Vertical Processing Facility to the launch pads' payload changeout rooms or from the Operations and Checkout Building to the Orbiter Processing Facility. The canisters are 65 feet long, 18 feet wide and 18 feet 7 inches high. They have the capability to carry vertically or horizontally processed payloads up to 15 feet in diameter and 60 feet long, matching the capacity of a Space Shuttle orbiter's payload bay. They can carry payloads weighing up to 65,000 pounds. The canister had been used most recently to conduct fit/validation checks at Complex 39's Pad A, now being readied to support launch of Columbia on the STS-32 mission in December. A 20-ton concrete weight was used to simulate a payload's weight during the Pad A fit/validation check. The canister had been returned to the Vehicle Assembly Building and was in the horizon- tal position to permit removal of the test weight, which measures approximately 15 feet square and one foot thick. Damaged Canister No.2 had been scheduled to support payload operations for the STS-32 mission in December. We are reschedul- ing the activities of Canister No. 1 to support upcoming payload flows. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 89 02:03:32 GMT From: agate!shelby!csli!jkl@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (John Kallen) Subject: Galileo and the proposed asteroid flybys Now that Galileo is finally on its way, I start wondering whether the launch delays the probe suffered affect in any way the planned asteroid rendezvous (sp?). Or were the rendezvous cancelled totally as a consequence of the fuel shortage due to inefficient impulse thrusters? Personally, I would really like to see images of asteroids larger than Phobos and Deimos. _______________________________________________________________________________ | | | | |\ | | /|\ | John K{llen | |\ \|/ \| * |/ | |/| | | PoBox 11215 "Pappir, pappir, hvi mange | |\ /|\ |\ * |\ | | | | Stanford CA 94309 "har thu drapht idag?" _|_|___|___|____|_\|___|__|__|_jkl@csli.stanford.edu___________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 89 02:09:57 GMT From: munnari.oz.au!murtoa.cs.mu.oz.au!kaan@uunet.uu.net (Gregory KAAN) Subject: Re: PowerSat Options in article <22510002@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM>, 10e@hpcvia.CV.HP.COM (Steven_Tenney) says: > Proposed PowerSats > > knew that microwave energy was a viable option but what about laser energy? > Steve Tenney The laser boys keep telling us that by using lasers instead of microwave transmission, we would get less spillage and therefore, greater efficiency and lower the safety risks. Unfortunately, I have yet to read about a high efficiency ( > 50 % ) laser or photoconverter so to me, laser power transmission would offer at best about 9% dc-to-dc efficiency (using 30% efficiency for the laser and the photoconverter which I suspect is generous). This also ignores attenuation within the atmosphere which can reach 100% in bad weather conditions. On the other hand, microwave transmission with a dc-to-dc efficiency of 85% was demonstrated at Goldstone back in the 70's (over a range of about 10 km I think). Using a frequency of 2.45 GHz, attenuation due to atmospheric effects is not a problem (I studied the problem for my final year thesis). The big problem is putting the Space Power Satellites up into orbit. Just about all other technical problems have been solved. Greg Kaan. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 18:45:02 GMT From: milton!stephen@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Stephen Milton) Subject: Re: Space Shuttle SRB exhaust gas makeup. In article <1989Oct24.163114.29924@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: >> Does it contain hydrogen oxide? > >I.e., water? Yes, among other things. Lots of other things. SRB fuel, technically, water is not hydrogen oxide, its dihydrogen oxide. Were you referring to this, or to some extremely odd form. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] []Stephen M. Milton, Operator/Consultant, UCS, University of Washington [] [] 'stephen@Milton.U.Washington.Edu' [] []Lifetime Goals: Local Autonomous Anarchy, and A Good Beef on Rye Sand.[] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 16:35:41 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!shadooby!mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!henry@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Galileo boost from Venus In article <619@zip.eecs.umich.edu> brian@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Brian Holtz) writes: >Let me ask this again: >If the attraction between Galileo and, say, Venus is the same >when Galileo is coming and going, how does the encounter speed >up the craft? Does it have something to do with the fact that it's >passing Venus as they both orbit the the sun? Sigh... for the Nth time... yes, it has a lot to do with the fact that Venus orbits the Sun. Galileo gains no velocity *with respect to Venus*. With respect to the Sun, that's different. I'm indebted to David Navas for this analogy: if you bounce a ball off a car coming towards you at 60 MPH, it comes back a lot harder than if you bounce it off a stationary car. Even though, from inside the car, either way the ball bounces back at about the velocity it arrived at. -- A bit of tolerance is worth a | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology megabyte of flaming. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu ------------------------------ Date: 25 Oct 89 00:56:39 GMT From: trident.arc.nasa.gov!yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Peter E. Yee) Subject: Payload Canister Mishap Investigation Board: Statement of Activity (Forwarded) October 24, 1989 Payload Canister Mishap Investigation Board: Statement of Activity The board met this morning to review progress in receiving the material requested to support the investigation. The board then reconvened in High Bay 4 of the Vehicle Assembly Building to examine the mobile crane involved in the mishap. They also inspected damage to the payload canister to determine what clues it provides as to why the event occurred. During the afternoon the board prepared questions which may be asked of the personnel who were present during the mishap. Witness interviews will begin late this afternoon and continue all day on Wednesday. George H. Diller Public Affairs Board Representative Approved for release by William G. Mahoney, Board Chairman ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 15:19:52 GMT From: hp-sdd!hp-pcd!hpcvia!10e@hplabs.hp.com (Steven_Tenney) Subject: PowerSat Options Proposed PowerSats Please forgive a novice's ignorance on this subject but I thought I read somewhere about a powersatellite collecting solar power and passing it down to receiving stations either as microwave or even as a laser beam. I knew that microwave energy was a viable option but what about laser energy? Thank you for any information on this topic. Steve Tenney ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 16:10:27 GMT From: mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!radio.astro!helios.physics!griffin@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Prof. A. Griffin) Subject: Re: Cleaning up LEO Disclaimer: I am NOT professor Griffin. If you use "F", please check the attribution against the signature. In article <1989Oct24.002704.2147@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> griffin@helios.physics.utoronto.ca I write: > According to some calculations I made this afternoon, and which I'm >still having trouble believing, > I found the mistakes. Slipped a decimal point or two when plugging numbers into my equations. Sorry about that. > The scenario I used was a mettalic flake 1mm in diameter, and 0.1mm >thick, in a circular orbit 300km above the surface of the earth. It turns >out that the photon pressure on the flakes lowers the perigee of the orbit >to 100km, at which time it can be said to be braking in the atmosphere and >out of our way, in only 1.6 hours of exposure to the beam, or roughly two >days, where the orbit passes into the beam every ninety minutes for four >minutes. > The correct value is 2 days in the beam, or roughly a month and a half of real time. > The same flake in a Clarke orbit would enter atmosphere after about >twenty months. > Well, twenty-five to thirty months. > The advantage to this approach is that it works best on small objects. A >communication satellite would suffer a delta-v of only about 1m/s, which I >presume is within the tolerance of the onboard thrusters to compensate. > 1.5 m/s, should still be all right. -- Christopher Neufeld....Just a graduate student | "Scotty..now _would_ cneufeld@pro-generic.pnet01.crash | be a good time!" griffin@helios.physics.utoronto.ca | - Pavel Chekov "Don't edit reality for the sake of simplicity" | ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 13:51:59 GMT From: ns-mx!pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu@uunet.uu.net (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) Subject: Re: Galileo boost from Venus From article <619@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, by brian@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Brian Holtz): > If the attraction between Galileo and, say, Venus is the same > when Galileo is coming and going, how does the encounter speed > up the craft? Does it have something to do with the fact that it's > passing Venus as they both orbit the the sun? The velocity of Galileo (or a rock, the dynamics are the same) approaching Venus is the same as the velocity leaving Venus, measured with respect to Venus (and at the same distance). The trick is to arrange the orbit so that the rock leaves Venus in an orbit tangent to Venus's orbit after having arrived from some other direction. The result is that (from the Sun's point of view) the rock picks up speed. Here's an example orbital strategy that would gain energy from encounters with some planets: Launch a rock from Earth with enough energy that it leaves Earth at its aphelion and falls towards the Sun. It rushes by Venus on its way to its perihelion well inside Venus's orbit, passing behind Venus on its way. Leaving Venus, it is in a new orbit with perihelion tangent to Venus's orbit and aphelion well outside Earth's orbit. Our rock now crosses Earth's orbit, passing just behind it so it's orbit changes again. Earth slings the rock into a new orbit with perihelion tangent to Earth's orbit and aphelion way out yonder. The above strategy is simpler than the Galileo strategy, which (as I understand it) involves two Earth encounters. Douglas Jones jones@herky.cs.uiowa.edu ------------------------------ Date: 24 Oct 89 22:27:43 GMT From: agate!typhoon.Berkeley.EDU!gwh@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (George William Herbert) Subject: Re: Space Shuttle SRB exhaust gas makeup. In article <1989Oct24.163114.29924@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: >I.e., water? Yes, among other things. Lots of other things. SRB fuel, >if I recall correctly, is ammonium perchlorate (NH4ClO4) plus a dash of >aluminum powder for extra heat, a demitasse of synthetic rubber for >mechanical strength, and an assortment of minor odds and ends to control >burn rate and such. So the exhaust will contain water, alumina (Al2O3) >particles, carbon dioxide (from the rubber), and a witches' brew of >nitrogen and chlorine compounds and partially burnt ickiness. A _dash_ of aluminum??? The majority of the thrust is achived by the aluminum component of the fuel ! The actual materials are Ammonium Perchorate, Aluminum powder, PVC binder and extra bits to stabilize. It's about 99% those three. Yes, the exhaust if icky. suprise :) **************************************** George William Herbert UCB Naval Architecture Dpt. (my god, even on schedule!) maniac@garnet.berkeley.edu gwh@ocf.berkeley.edu ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of SPACE Digest V10 #177 *******************